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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby ScotsJim » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:26 pm

Falconeer wrote:Nice one Jim - the Barras is great - last year I got a rack to hold eight pipes for a fiver there.

Failed at first attempt with carboard box rack; couldn't get holes round; will try cutting round a coin with a hobby knife next time.

Know everyone of the pubs mentioned - used to live in Dunoon and always stopped off in Gourock and Greenock on way home!

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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby KevLa » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:35 am

That's a nice pipe rack, Jim! :)
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby ScotsJim » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:54 am

KevLa wrote:That's a nice pipe rack, Jim! :)


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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby Krumpelman » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:16 pm

I like the cardboard rack, very creative! A while back I created a rack that I still use today, and have had good luck with. Cost was pretty low, and tools were minimal. Below is a link to the PDF with instructions. Hope this helps.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby 12toneman » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:48 pm

Krumpelman wrote:I like the cardboard rack, very creative! A while back I created a rack that I still use today, and have had good luck with. Cost was pretty low, and tools were minimal. Below is a link to the PDF with instructions. Hope this helps.
https://files.me.com/krumpelman/8s1zt9



Looks great! Question: Will the hole saw work will with 1/2" thick oak? Your hole are so clean-- I tried to make a rack with hole using a 1" flat bit on hand-held drill, but it destroyed my wood. Would a hole saw help? Thanks!
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby Krumpelman » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:36 am

12toneman wrote:
Krumpelman wrote:I like the cardboard rack, very creative! A while back I created a rack that I still use today, and have had good luck with. Cost was pretty low, and tools were minimal. Below is a link to the PDF with instructions. Hope this helps.
https://files.me.com/krumpelman/8s1zt9



Looks great! Question: Will the hole saw work will with 1/2" thick oak? Your hole are so clean-- I tried to make a rack with hole using a 1" flat bit on hand-held drill, but it destroyed my wood. Would a hole saw help? Thanks!


Thanks, I think a hole saw will work on 1/2" think oak, as long as the hole saw is more than 1/2" tall I would imagine. Might take a bit of work to get that much wood out of the hole saw, but probably not that bad. I wouldn't try a flat bit, I too have had them tear up wood, or at least on thinner pieces. I prefer the hole saw bits. I used a drill press, and it made the job pretty easy and fast. The press was really old though and regardless of my marks being centered, the bit would float a bit when you put preassure on it. hard to see unless you look, but it looks good sitting on my shelf.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby 12toneman » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:26 pm

I'll give it a go. I've been trying to build my Simenon rack (see below). I made one shelf, but it didn't work out how I envisioned. Mistake one: I used pine. Too soft. Mistake two: flat bit. Ate up my too soft wood. I'll try again with the hole saw and oak. Any other suggestion?

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Here's my first attempt...notice the holes are not clean at all.

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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby Krumpelman » Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:43 am

12toneman wrote:I'll give it a go. I've been trying to build my Simenon rack (see below). I made one shelf, but it didn't work out how I envisioned. Mistake one: I used pine. Too soft. Mistake two: flat bit. Ate up my too soft wood. I'll try again with the hole saw and oak. Any other suggestion?
Here's my first attempt...notice the holes are not clean at all.


I am by far a master (or even good) word worker. But I do remember the topic of tear out coming up in something I was doing. I think it may have been in application to cutting and tear out using a table saw. Either way, the suggestion was to lay down a row of the blue painters along the line (or hole) you are going to cut. If you cut (or drill) on the tape, it minimizes tear-out. So I would lay down a few strips and use the hole saw through it. Might help. On the oak I didn’t have an issue, but pine always does it to me. I made my daughter a stool last christmas and did it out of pine. Ended up having to feather out all the tear-out.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby GlobalAlan » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:55 am

The best way to prevent tearout is to put some scrap piece of wood underneath the part you're drilling. Cardboard works too. You'll want to drill slightly into the scrap making the your holes very clean.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby 12toneman » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:19 am

finally- here's the prototype for my Simenon rack. It's just one of the shelves...based on Simenon's one-shelf rack (see pic below, over the desk). I couldn't find keyhole hangers narrow enough for the wall mount, so I had to settle on the triangular hangers. I have the four-shelf rack (see posting above) a couple of steps behind the prototype. I'll post a pic of that when it's assembled and stained. (note to self: woodworking in an apartment: not the way to go).
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby kats » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:46 pm

12toneman wrote:...notice the holes are not clean at all.


What you really need is a forstner bit... drills a clean hole in any wood.. hard/soft...whatever.
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GlobalAlan wrote:to prevent tearout is to put some scrap piece of wood underneath the part you're drilling

Exactly!

12toneman wrote:I couldn't find keyhole hangers

(trying to describe this well).... With a piece of wood that would sit flat against the wall between the two decorative curved vertical pieces...you can use that piece to screw through or keyhole behind to mount to wall..... or mount piece as kind of a cleat to the wall - then screw through top of shelf into cleat to mount.

Sorry I was a shop teacher for many years... and have a pretty nice wood/metal shop at home - I'm kind-of a jack-of-all handyman. Some day I'll get my camera working and snap a picture of my rack to post for the whole world to see.

This goes against my grain as a woodworker, but has anyone ever used empty egg cartons?

My wife is pretty awesome with a sewing machine and all things quilting.... I've got her working on a prototype for a thing I will call a "pipe pillow". it is going to be about the size of a baseball, filled with little pellets... like a bean bag - to be able to set a pipe down (yea, I want to do it once in a while while smoking) and not have it roll all over and hit the floor. Kind of like this... but different...
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby Bob » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:00 pm

Sunlight is the worst thing for stem oxidation. If you do use a rack. At a minimum, keep the rack in a relatively dark place.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby ScotsJim » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:03 pm

12toneman wrote:finally- here's the prototype for my Simenon rack. It's just one of the shelves...based on Simenon's one-shelf rack (see pic below, over the desk). I couldn't find keyhole hangers narrow enough for the wall mount, so I had to settle on the triangular hangers. I have the four-shelf rack (see posting above) a couple of steps behind the prototype. I'll post a pic of that when it's assembled and stained. (note to self: woodworking in an apartment: not the way to go).


Nice job 12tone :)

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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby ScotsJim » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:06 pm

kats wrote:My wife is pretty awesome with a sewing machine and all things quilting.... I've got her working on a prototype for a thing I will call a "pipe pillow". it is going to be about the size of a baseball, filled with little pellets... like a bean bag - to be able to set a pipe down (yea, I want to do it once in a while while smoking) and not have it roll all over and hit the floor. Kind of like this... but different...
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That's a rather a good idea Kats :)

At the moment, I use plastic single pipe stands that my tobacconist gave me for free. Not that pretty to look at, but they serve the purpose.

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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby 12toneman » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:38 pm

kats wrote:(trying to describe this well).... With a piece of wood that would sit flat against the wall between the two decorative curved vertical pieces...you can use that piece to screw through or keyhole behind to mount to wall..... or mount piece as kind of a cleat to the wall - then screw through top of shelf into cleat to mount.


I think i understand. You mean to screw throught it shelf or bracket and into the wall, like this?:

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but, the wood I used is quite thin, 3/16", so i wouldn't be able to drill though the shelf or top part of the bracket without swearving and coming out the side. when I put up the four-shelf unit, I'll put screws through the vertical mounts and into the wall.

bob9039 wrote:Sunlight is the worst thing for stem oxidation. If you do use a rack. At a minimum, keep the rack in a relatively dark place.

Good advice. Will move to a darker place.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby kats » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:43 pm

GRRRr... I can't figure out how to get my pictures to copy onto the forum... any help??? A picture would describe what I'm talking about so much better.

Yea 12tone, I think you are on the right track... but when I make these decorative brackets, I don't have the rectangular piece that is shown against the wall (where you show the arrow to screw into the wall). I put a rectangular piece horizontally between the two brackets - perpendicular to the shelf, on the back edge of the shelf (against the wall). Then it is easy to screw to this rectangular piece into the wall.

This pix of a quilt rack off the internet shows the horizontal board against the wall that I'm talking about.
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby 12toneman » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:49 pm

ah...i see. The reason I have the rectangular piece is because for the four-shelf version, the piece is the wall mount. This was just a test run to this:
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby ScotsJim » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:52 pm

kats wrote:GRRRr... I can't figure out how to get my pictures to copy onto the forum... any help??? A picture would describe what I'm talking about so much better.


Provided the picture is saved on your computer, upload it here ;

http://load.imageshack.us/

( It's free and no sign up / email address needed. You can even resize your picture )

On upload, copy the direct link URL, and paste it here by clicking the Img button on your post and pasting the address in the middle.

Hope this is a help Kats(?)

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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby Vulcan1976 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:29 pm

That is a wonderful job 12T, congratulations....as I am someone who doesn't know one end of a hammer from the other I am always amazed at the technical skill of the other members on this forum, and the wonderful results (of which your pipe rack 12T is a prime example) that are the fruits of their labours. Well done everyone!
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Re: Pipe racks....

Postby kats » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:22 am

Thanks Jim, for the info on uploading pictures.... here goes.

Picture of my homemade pipe rack that is tucked away in the closet of my office/extra room.
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Some details...
upper right - old 1/2 pint milk bottle used to hold pipe cleaners
mid shelf right - 1/2 pint canning jar without lid - holds lighters, cigar cutter, pipe tool, etc..
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mix of different jars - most are plastic jars with screw top lids from a craft store. they have bottom that nests into lid of top so they stack without sliding around. One glass jar and ceramic bail lid jars (on shelf below) are all thrift store purchases for $1 I use masking tape to label jars.
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This picture shows upper left corner with screw through board in back... into wall to mount it. A thin piece of foam with a fabric sleeve that covers the shelf the pipes sit on. Also two pipes in spot designed for one pipe...and a couple of MM's sitting on top.
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CAUTION - PAD/TAD WARNING: The pipe rack you acquire/build will NEVER be big enough...
I am seriously entertaining the idea of getting rid of the humidor & cigars and going exclusively to the pipe...
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I'll have so much more room for.... someone stop me before my wife kills me.

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