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The Philosophy Room

Postby KevLa » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:44 pm

Hello, and welcome to "The Philosophy Room". Make yourself comfortable, and feel quite free to smoke while you ponder :)__,~

All lovers of wisdom are welcome here. Please discuss and debate to your heart's content, but do not forget: There are no answers in philosophy, only questions... ;)

Here's something I just found on Wikipedia, to char-light our 'little grey cells':-

"Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind. One said, "The flag moves." The other said, "The wind moves." They argued back and forth but could not agree.
The Sixth Ancestor said, "Gentlemen! It is not the wind that moves; it is not the flag that moves; it is your mind that moves." The two monks were struck with awe."

- Wúménguān (a.k.a. Mumonkan, a.k.a. The Gateless Gate), Case 29, translation by Robert Aitken.
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby Wez » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:34 pm

If a man that can't count finds a 4 leaf clover, is he lucky?......
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby KevLa » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:44 pm

Wez wrote:If a man that can't count finds a 4 leaf clover, is he lucky?......

Not sure. But then, I've always believed that it's bad luck to be superstitious... ;)
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby Wez » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:49 pm

KevLa wrote:Not sure. But then, I've always believed that it's bad luck to be superstitious... ;)


Steve wonder never, and that's good enough for me :lol:
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby cakeanddottle » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:24 pm

Neither the flag, wind or the mind moves, as everything we perceive is illusion. Only through conceptual detachment can we glimpse a shadow of the underlying truth of all things.
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby RompinDonkey » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:00 am

cakeanddottle wrote:Neither the flag, wind or the mind moves, as everything we perceive is illusion. Only through conceptual detachment can we glimpse a shadow of the underlying truth of all things.


Crickey, I am now questioning which planet I am on. It must be another one.
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby jwh891 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:04 am

cakeanddottle wrote:Neither the flag, wind or the mind moves, as everything we perceive is illusion. Only through conceptual detachment can we glimpse a shadow of the underlying truth of all things.


Someone seems to like the allegory of the cave :)
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby cakeanddottle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:32 am

jwh891 wrote:
cakeanddottle wrote:Neither the flag, wind or the mind moves, as everything we perceive is illusion. Only through conceptual detachment can we glimpse a shadow of the underlying truth of all things.


Someone seems to like the allegory of the cave :)


actually I'm reading Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny, which is a sci fi story dealing with buddhism vs the old hindu gods. Made me remember my brief foray into soto zen buddhism when I was a young man.
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby jwh891 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:43 am

cakeanddottle wrote:
actually I'm reading Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny, which is a sci fi story dealing with buddhism vs the old hindu gods. Made me remember my brief foray into soto zen buddhism when I was a young man.


I haven't read that. Sounds good though, just finished Dance with Dragon and am working through the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby SmokinFool » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:02 am

OK. I'll give it a go.

A scientific thought experiment known as Schrödinger's Cat. I believe the most common interpretation of which is that a cat is both alive and dead until someone acts as a witness of the cat's state, at which time the two states "collapse" into one state (either alive or dead).
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby Hermit » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:39 am

If a man makes a statement in the forest and
his wife isn't there to hear it, is he still wrong? :lol:
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby Hermit » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:41 am

SmokinFool wrote:OK. I'll give it a go.

A scientific thought experiment known as Schrödinger's Cat. I believe the most common interpretation of which is that a cat is both alive and dead until someone acts as a witness of the cat's state, at which time the two states "collapse" into one state (either alive or dead).


Yeah, but how long ago was that experiment, 1935?
The damn cat is dead. :lol:
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby DrT999 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:06 pm

Hermit wrote:
SmokinFool wrote:OK. I'll give it a go.

A scientific thought experiment known as Schrödinger's Cat. I believe the most common interpretation of which is that a cat is both alive and dead until someone acts as a witness of the cat's state, at which time the two states "collapse" into one state (either alive or dead).


Yeah, but how long ago was that experiment, 1935?
The damn cat is dead. :lol:


And I don't want to open the box it was in to prove it, either!

Of course, no matter what the result, it is still the best of all possible worlds ;)
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby ScotsJim » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:43 pm

SmokinFool wrote:OK. I'll give it a go.

A scientific thought experiment known as Schrödinger's Cat. I believe the most common interpretation of which is that a cat is both alive and dead until someone acts as a witness of the cat's state, at which time the two states "collapse" into one state (either alive or dead).


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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby ScotsJim » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:45 pm

Ok. I'll play ;

Q. If a poof jumped on your back, would you toss him off ? :lol: :
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby kats » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:39 pm

Q: Why did the chicken cross the playground?

One possible answer... to get to the other slide.

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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby cakeanddottle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:45 pm

If a tree falls in the forest:

a) it makes a sound

b) it doesn't make a sound if we're not there to hear it

c) there is no tree

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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby Smitty » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:11 am

I'm listening to Nightwish and smoking a bowl of OJK right now. All I know is the snozzberries taste like snozzberries and my fingers can touch everything but themselves. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby englanddave » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:14 am

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
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Re: The Philosophy Room

Postby Slickheadhunter » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:22 am

Is it possible to fetch a bucket of steam?
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