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Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Taff » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:56 am

Are they any good these days?

Reason I ask is that we are off to Turkey tomorrow for a fortnight in the sun (so naturally the UK is forecast a heatwave :evil: )and I was wondering if I should try and get a meer from there.

At the moment I only have two estate meers so I dunno much about buying new ones. Any thoughts?
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby ratatosk » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:17 pm

Glad you asked about this, Taff, as I don't have a meer but one is somewhere on my list of things to buy one day. My only experience so far is with a couple of meer lined Falcon bowls and I definitely do not recommend those (hairline cracks almost from the beginning).

I always heard Turkish was the best, but lately it sounds like African is preferred. I'll be interested in what other members advise.
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Dodger » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:28 pm

My advice is to be careful where you by it as there is a lot of pressed meerschaums available cheaply ,usually sold to tourists in market places .
You left it a bit late Taff to do some decent research and you have not said where you are going .There are some shops in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul that should be worth a look at .
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Ally » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:18 pm

Dodger wrote:My advice is to be careful where you by it as there is a lot of pressed meerschaums available cheaply ,usually sold to tourists in market places .
You left it a bit late Taff to do some decent research and you have not said where you are going .There are some shops in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul that should be worth a look at .



Yes be very careful, I bought one of E-Bay a couple of months ago, and was very pleased with it.

Even left the seller good feedback, after about five smokes the stummel cracked, The seller did not want to know.!
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Taff » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:19 pm

Hmm I've heard that African is getting better too. I know I know I should have thought about it earlier but to be honest I only put two and two together the other day when I smoked a Manx meet of mine...

I will keep an open mind when wandering round Fethiye markets.
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby ScotsJim » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:01 pm

My first ever pipe was a bent Jambo African meer. It's now 33yrs old and, although a bit worn looking, (and a darker shade than it was when I bought it :) ) it still smokes fine. ( It's a Condor pipe ) I've lost count of the number of times I've dropped it over the years and it's still survived. I seriously doubt it wold have survived the abuse it's been through had it been a Turkish meer.

What I am saying is, if your anything like me, stick to African meers that can tolerate rough handling. Or buy a Turkish meer and never smoke it outdoors. And don't forget to wear white gloves when you handle it ;) :lol:

Seriously, the intricate carving on many Turkish meers make them most desirable, but be aware of just how delicate they are compared to African.
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Dodger » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:32 pm

ScotsJim wrote:
Seriously, the intricate carving on many Turkish meers make them most desirable, but be aware of just how delicate they are compared to African.

I agree with that Jim ,and the Africans smoke nearly as well ,the Manx as well if you can get hold of one .
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Taff » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:25 am

Well I can certainly attest to the quality of the Manx meer as a smoker.

Hmm, I guess I shall have to be very careful out there - they're not the try before you buy kind of item are they?!

Thanks for the input chaps. If I do score anything I will of course get photos up here.

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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby BriarSpirit » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:41 am

Probably too late for you to read this reply before you go, in case not, keep your eye open for some older chaps resident to where you're staying, offer a bowl of baccy to them and sit down for a chat, be honest with them and say you're looking for a nice but affordable block Meer' once you've been chatting for a while, wont be long before you know where to go to get a good Meer'. ;)

Have a great holiday chap. :)
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby ScotsJim » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:31 pm

Have a good holiday Taff.
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby RompinDonkey » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:07 pm

BriarSpirit wrote:Probably too late for you to read this reply before you go, in case not, keep your eye open for some older chaps resident to where you're staying, offer a bowl of baccy to them and sit down for a chat, be honest with them and say you're looking for a nice but affordable block Meer' once you've been chatting for a while, wont be long before you know where to go to get a good Meer'. ;)

Have a great holiday chap. :)


Excellent advice.

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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Frizz » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:16 am

Personally I think the block meerschaum that came out of africa has always been in the same league as the turkish block as regards the smoking qualities. It seems to me that the difference between them is basically just aesthetic - the pure whiteness and the intricate carving common to the turkish block vs the relative durability of the calcined african block.

Of course block vs pressed is another topic alltogether, but I have a few meer-lined briars that I'm pretty sure are just pressed meerschaum and they smoke just fine - cool & dry and durable enough...good, basic, utilitarian pipes IMO.

I can't speak to any contemporary pipes being made and sold cheaply out of the pressed/scrap meer. but as ever Caveat Emptor. Baki, Altinok, IMP are all contemporary turkish pipes that have earned an excellent reputation though.

Hope ya have a great holiday Taff - an' mind that SPF! ;) :lol:
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Frizz » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:22 am

RompinDonkey wrote:Excellent advice.

When abroad, see where the locals shop and avoid the tourist traps.



definite +1. We've lots of tourists in Tahoe, so I'de remove the "abroad" caveat! :lol:
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby KevLa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:17 pm

Have a wicked time in Turkey, Taff :)
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby RompinDonkey » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:44 am

I'm sure that you will have a great time in Turkey Taff.

Turkish bazaars? I would say leave well alone. I went to one in Kusadasi and would not like to repeat that experience.

We only went there as we were on holiday on a Greek Island, and decided to take the tourist trip to Ephesus. Despite the tourist conveyor belt, the trip to Ephesus was magnificent. The bazaar was not a nice experience.

As someone has said already there are many very reputable online suppliers - I can say that Altinok is good. I think that you could do better by buying online when you get home.
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby SidStavros » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:35 pm

The modern turkish meerschaums are not as good as some years ego. Now have thick walls,cheap plastic mouthpiece and they charge 50$ for larger bowl and 20$ for an acrylic mouthpiece for the same pipe.Even their Calabash are not from Gourd but from Mahogany and don't forget that plastic crap who they put as tenon!
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Taff » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:19 pm

Well, Turkey was disappointing! From a smoking point of view anyway!

Not a single shop I went to sold pipes of any description other than those god awful haojue chinese shite things. In the resort shops I could understand but even in the tobacconists in Fethiye there was not a pipe to be seen. I did see three carved merrs for sale in the gift shop in Ephesus of all places but they were 380TL each and that didn't sit well withe, so I gave it a miss.

Cut a long story short, when I got home I went on eBay and bought this :

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For the princely sum of £20, or 60TL!! We shall wait and see what its like when it turns up, but I think it looks ok!

Back to Turkey though, I couldn't even get any decent baccy there except for Borkum Riff. Fortunately I had two pouches of condor stashed in my hand lugagge which just about saw me through. Even in Dalaman duty free all they sold was Borkum and sodding macbaren, and it wasn't much cheaper than Smoke King.co.uk either. 100g tin of macb vanilla duty free was £20, and even in the expensive UK I can get 100g of HOTW for £21!!

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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Ally » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:00 pm

Ephesus is a great place to visit though, did you enjoy it.?
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby Taff » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:52 pm

Aye Ally we did although we still didn't get to see all of it! Its very impressive but it was mobbed. Hieropolis was better for looking around in peace!
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Re: Modern Turkish Meers

Postby ScotsJim » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:06 pm

Looks like a very nice meer matey :)

Enjoy in good health, hopefully without stressing about if it's colouring or not, as so many folk seem to do these days :lol:
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